tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post2966945049179536190..comments2024-03-28T07:16:39.621+00:00Comments on Lallands Peat Worrier: Jim Murphy: Labour's rubber chicken fix Lallands Peat Worrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18276270498204697708noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-48618279874302482272015-05-11T16:06:58.478+01:002015-05-11T16:06:58.478+01:00Thanks AdrianThanks AdrianEdwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-86545472797273003572015-05-11T13:43:40.827+01:002015-05-11T13:43:40.827+01:00Murphy is a vainglorious egotist. In his own mind...Murphy is a vainglorious egotist. In his own mind he no doubt believed he could somehow use the sainted Tony's tropes to persuade errant voters to "come home to Labour". So much is summed up in that egregious phrase - arrogance, entitlement, self-delusion, cynicism, complacency, and indeed the whole paternalistic attitude aimed at inducing passivity in the populace - the very hallmark of Labour's municipal socialism for decades: "Dinna fash yersels - we'll look after you," with the muttered but now widely grasped aside "...after we've looked after ourselves."<br /><br />Not only is the Blair brand a busted flush, Jim simply didn't have the looks or charm to pull it off. Murphy is a dismal smudge of anti-charisma whose shallowness was exposed with every soundbite and shout of the campaign, every snipe and sneer at an opposition at the very top of its game. As mentioned above, Murphy led the supposed reboot of Labour in Scotland back in 2011, and through the latter stages of the referendum campaign was clearly manoeuvring to replace his own preferred choice from only three years previously - admittedly from a reduced gene pool - in order to revive his own moribund career. His election in December gave vent to wildly misconceived hubris: It was only a sympathy bounce in the polls... Salmond's gone and Sturgeon will never cope with a big beast like Jim... When the referendum recedes and the reality kicks in they'll all come flocking back... Once the election really gets going it's all about Labour vs Tory, and folk know what side their bread's buttered.<br /><br />All of the above are more or less direct quotes I read on websites and social media before and after Jim's ascension. Apart from all the other myriad misconceptions, many Labour supporters believed Jim's own hype about his being the heroic egg-stained saviour of the Union. <br /><br />In many ways Murphy was the perfect choice last December; the vanity of the man and his party seemed to know no bounds. I suspect Jim has led his desperate, deluded comrades into a committee room where hangs the Portrait of Dorian Gray.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345462043603219433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-82629064556725930202015-05-11T13:12:20.737+01:002015-05-11T13:12:20.737+01:00A colleague resident in Edinburgh South told me Mu...A colleague resident in Edinburgh South told me Murray survived because <br />a) By all account he's a pretty hard working MP, and<br />b) He won the minds of Hearts fans after some crucial support he gave to the club as it slid into administration a couple of years back. <br /><br />I've no idea whether that assessment is accurate, but if that's a widely held belief it certainly couldn't have done Mr Murray any harm last Thursday.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345462043603219433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-26691915758028717242015-05-10T20:00:15.143+01:002015-05-10T20:00:15.143+01:00Ian Murray was saved by students at the Uni from s...Ian Murray was saved by students at the Uni from south of the border and Tories<br />I beg to differ that Jim Murphy only had months he was head of the 2011 root and branch review of Scottish labour<br />It was comon knowledge that he *Murphy* was going to be next leader pre referendum why he raised his profile<br />He is despised by union members Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17955041482754245632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-89234674058997791272015-05-10T12:39:21.003+01:002015-05-10T12:39:21.003+01:00I think you're thinking of this http://www.bbc...I think you're thinking of this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32601281<br />But I think it's nonsensical to feed FPTP vote percentages into a different system – the whole point of PR is that you can vote for who you really like rather than who you think will win. Or at least a mix of both. The percentages of votes cast for each party would almost certainly change under PR.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992815072921956062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-17282245729862494842015-05-10T10:46:45.170+01:002015-05-10T10:46:45.170+01:00Have lost the link tychy but someone has done a ch...Have lost the link tychy but someone has done a chart of a PR Westminster - think it was 80 UKip MPs, over 30 SNP.Edwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-38012164875248685622015-05-09T22:50:49.305+01:002015-05-09T22:50:49.305+01:00There Is No Alternative.
Now,where have I heard th...There Is No Alternative.<br />Now,where have I heard that before?bringitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10712089398887269381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-79311217807039437972015-05-09T22:34:03.094+01:002015-05-09T22:34:03.094+01:00I'd just add that 3,881,129 votes can also get...I'd just add that 3,881,129 votes can also get you a lot less than 56 MPs. It can be very lonely being a UKIP MP, all alone with your 3.8 million supporters.<br /><br />But that's the strange, cruel beauty of "first past the post." Losers lose big. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-39614014395639943992015-05-09T20:51:43.832+01:002015-05-09T20:51:43.832+01:00Ian Murray has been very quiet.
He ran a non-Murp...Ian Murray has been very quiet.<br /><br />He ran a non-Murph campaign in Edinburgh South, concentrating on his own achievements and hard work in the constituency.devorgillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885637866018093933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-81064013378741873842015-05-09T19:30:01.837+01:002015-05-09T19:30:01.837+01:00All excellent points. However...
Scottish Labour ...All excellent points. However...<br /><br />Scottish Labour have had 7 leaders in the last 15 years. Dropping yet another one would look like terminal desperation.<br /><br />That might just be enough to save Murphy's job. If Murphy does go, they'd better find someone with nerves of steel who can stay in charge for the long run. I'm not sure such a person exists.Iain Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05071209220322180991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-2627675728681679252015-05-09T16:34:02.027+01:002015-05-09T16:34:02.027+01:00Jim Murphy is a psychopath - I mean this in the bi...Jim Murphy is a psychopath - I mean this in the biological rather than dramatic sense. You can tell from his unflinching smile at that guy shouting in his face at the orchestrated Izzard kerfuffle. Also his reaction to spotting a camera on him here: https://twitter.com/DaftLimmy/status/585523082812600321<br /><br />Psychopaths can be useful in politics. You probably want one on your team. But not as the front man. They can only offer tactics. Scotland was looking for bigger picture this time.nerkulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04927301561819474314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-90446277177219123632015-05-09T15:24:09.912+01:002015-05-09T15:24:09.912+01:00As I said, they increased their vote - up about 20...As I said, they increased their vote - up about 20,000 on last Westminster election. A percentage share of 1.8% downwards - bigger turnout - but another sign that the ScottishTories are not going to disappear.<br /><br />SNP: 1,454,436 votes gets you 56 MPs<br /><br />Labour: 707,147 votes gets you 1 MP <br /><br />Tory: 434,097 votes gets you 1 MP<br /><br />LibDems: 219,675 gets you 1 MP<br /><br />As I also said, this is a great victory for the SNP - but for half the Scots who voted it is not a cause for celebration. We are a divided nation.<br /><br /><br /> Edwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-12749855828997775992015-05-09T14:47:57.339+01:002015-05-09T14:47:57.339+01:00The Tory vote is the lowest recorded in post War h...The Tory vote is the lowest recorded in post War history - 14.9% compared to 15.6% back in 2001.JohnBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04924150491150942391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-16407815121282665262015-05-09T14:46:08.906+01:002015-05-09T14:46:08.906+01:00Jim,Gord,daily record believed each others bullshi...Jim,Gord,daily record believed each others bullshit<br /><br />even worse ,snp have decent majoritieswaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03242753707412340371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-65627869846308687952015-05-09T14:44:45.037+01:002015-05-09T14:44:45.037+01:00The analogy of the stage set Western sums it up pe...The analogy of the stage set Western sums it up perfectly. All the fake rallies, stage managed "chaos" at said fake rallies by "bad SNP" just turned people off. Most people were smart enough to see through them and just thought the man a complete idiot, and his party the same by association. They had no interest in the electorate, turning them off by decrying any voices of dissent from SLAB views by telling them they were basically stupid for daring to have independent thoughts instead of putting anything positive forward for people to think about. I think it will be a long time before there is any sign of a Labour come back, and certainly not before they learn to actually listen to the people and what the voting public want to see happen in government.paulinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12433424523366493727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-63745434882323401862015-05-09T12:33:07.224+01:002015-05-09T12:33:07.224+01:00There was also the spectral figure of Milliband in...There was also the spectral figure of Milliband in the background - not sure why Scots disliked him so much but he certainly added to the pain - however, have to agree Andrew, yes Murphy must take the blame for the near total wipe out.<br /><br />Like others I wanted Alan Johnson to run for the Labour leadership, but there you go (and there we went). The Tories had a fine leader in Ruth, and they increased their vote, be it noted. I expect they and Labour will do well at the Holyrood election, though everything I thought would happen in this election was wrong so wtf do I know.<br /><br />Tides come and go. There is a lovely Kingsley Amis story in My Enemy's Enemy in which a Tory officer stares in disbelief at an army paper with news of the Labour '45 victory. Hmn yes I had that feeling on Friday , but that is democracy - it means both victory and failure. <br /><br />Other tides, other times. But a great victory this tide for the SNP and Nicola Sturgeon.<br /><br /><br /><br />Edwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-10767250366520179462015-05-09T12:32:49.787+01:002015-05-09T12:32:49.787+01:00Smurpfy is like these stage set Western towns in t...Smurpfy is like these stage set Western towns in the old movies. Pulling back you can see there is no substance to the facade and there is only a half built roof. That is what all his photo opportunism was about; grab the page in the Daily Record and drop in a meaningless soundbite.<br /><br />Murphy have no values, no principles and no conscience. That may be a short definition of a sociopath but it really is a definition of what Labour has become.<br /><br />Unsaveable, Unsellable and Unemployable.Bugger le Pandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15924663556503952533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-60057180963034321412015-05-09T12:22:25.719+01:002015-05-09T12:22:25.719+01:00Sociopath comes to mind ..... http://www.wikihow.c...Sociopath comes to mind ..... http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath .... Alba Gu Bràth Kelly Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01993210671195415458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-63525649296117469282015-05-09T12:09:27.075+01:002015-05-09T12:09:27.075+01:00Says it for me.Says it for me.TONY @oakroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08304486783392151133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-58294015225575110972015-05-09T12:08:35.852+01:002015-05-09T12:08:35.852+01:00Good analysis, I would add that Labour's funda...Good analysis, I would add that Labour's fundamental problem was one of trust and Murphy and chums chose to focus on his "largest party" shtick which voters could smell was dishonest.Andrew Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00022515722243040894noreply@blogger.com