tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post1992479185597479591..comments2024-03-28T07:16:39.621+00:00Comments on Lallands Peat Worrier: Victim FantasiesLallands Peat Worrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18276270498204697708noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-18203317887312153232013-10-01T12:24:46.138+01:002013-10-01T12:24:46.138+01:00Edwin,
It is one thing to say that a very broad m...Edwin,<br /><br />It is one thing to say that a very broad movement has its supporters with dubious ideological commitments. It is quite another to argue that those dubious commitments are general and represent the mainstream opinions of the movement. In this piece, I was striking at the second allegation as demonstrably false. The first, I accept. Like every political and religious persuasion I can imagine, we've got our moronic and bigoted fellow-travellers. To borrow your example, certainly two shouts too many, but<i> only two.</i>Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-57163632434517982692013-09-27T11:41:13.087+01:002013-09-27T11:41:13.087+01:00Well up to a point LPW. I dunno about you but I...Well up to a point LPW. I dunno about you but I've heard two shouts of 'Get back to England where you belong' from demonstrators and that's two shouts too many.<br /><br />Right-wing politics are hardly foreign to Scotland. Even in a era in which Tries are suppose to be extinct in Scotland, 412,000 of us voted Tory at the Westminster election, we have 15 pretty right-wing Tory MSPs, and Tories are in council coalitions all over Scotland.<br /><br />I once heard Swinney take a slap at 'Little Englanders' - or rather, 'Litt-ul Englan-durrssssss'. An annoying term to use anyway of course, as originally the expression meant the opposite of what Swinney takes it to mean ( though that shift in meaning is a lost battle alas). <br /><br />The point is left-wing English politicians use the term in the same way about their right-wing countryfolk, but the inner circle of hell will get even colder before we hear Swinney refer to - say - the anti-Catholic bigots in Scotland as 'Litt-ul Scotlan-durrssssss'. <br />Edwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-11475495881746656992013-09-25T17:27:48.071+01:002013-09-25T17:27:48.071+01:00To be crystal clear, I'm not arguing that you ...To be crystal clear, I'm not arguing that you can't dig up the odd lunatic. Of course you can, as you doubtless could in any broad political movement. I'm not arguing that Scottish nationalism can't and does not have a problematic strand. Of course it does. Like all nationalisms, including British nationalism, Scottish nationalism admits its contemptible ethnic dimension. That is inevitable, which is profoundly different to saying that the chuavenistic form of nationalism is representative of the broader movement. In my experience, it just isn't, certainly isn't true of the current leadership of the SNP, and to allege so by dint of innuendo is just outrageous, ignorant, or both.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-85737790109672044052013-09-23T22:50:13.319+01:002013-09-23T22:50:13.319+01:00Maybe I read the wrong blogs, access the wrong sit...Maybe I read the wrong blogs, access the wrong sites, but plenty of anti English stuff out there. The SSP have a particular way of rewriting history and bringing in the anti English stuff, and if you don't agree with them you are a Quisling. <br />http://www.scottishsocialistparty.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ssv418.pdf<br />Must admit I will not vote as it calls upon me to legitimise either Holyrood or Westminster, both Parliaments are failing.Vinyl Minerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14143010575470895405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-32255732653427852582013-09-23T17:04:35.978+01:002013-09-23T17:04:35.978+01:00Peaty starting to emit smoke with that one. Great ...Peaty starting to emit smoke with that one. Great stuff.<br /><br />I am only surprised that anyone bothered to read anything Bennett writes. Every week seems like a strain to make the wordcount.<br /><br />I do look forward to someone, anyone, being found campaigning for Yes, never mind actually part of Yes, and coming out with this mythical anti-English stuff. It would almost be a relief to be able to see it and deal with it.<br /><br />I had always thought any nationalist hatred was more strongly directed inwards at ourselves, expressed quietly in despair and self-loathing at our lack of power in the face of constitutional and parliamentary irrelevance in a Middle England-pleasing Westminster. John Hayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923129278718464468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-58021673987202152722013-09-23T15:20:54.953+01:002013-09-23T15:20:54.953+01:00*Half-Scotchman, Ian Hyslop, as I remember. Wasn&#...*Half-Scotchman, Ian Hyslop, as I remember. Wasn't his father or grandfather some sort of grim dominie?Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-20707730267007724952013-09-23T15:17:26.994+01:002013-09-23T15:17:26.994+01:00*sniffles, dabs a tear from his eye**sniffles, dabs a tear from his eye*Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-41342538827076835722013-09-22T22:09:12.076+01:002013-09-22T22:09:12.076+01:00Thank you for that.
I have read Gilligan and Benne...Thank you for that.<br />I have read Gilligan and Bennet , earlier in the week I read Heffer.<br />Unfortunately I also caught Distorting Scotland this evening and suffered the dribblings of the inane at the Labour party conference.<br />It left an excellent ,optimistic and enthusiastic Saturday in tatters.<br />I am utterly sickened by the MSM and left wondering if they are trying to goad the more "active " members of the Yes Scotland campaign into some violent activity enabling them to really play the "victim."Disgusted Dorothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16656716908787035739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-32404311106420674642013-09-22T20:05:00.351+01:002013-09-22T20:05:00.351+01:00Like this?
"The Baron permitted anger and gr...Like this?<br /><br />"The Baron permitted anger and grief to edge his voice, thinking: Let him wrong me in that! I could place myself on the throne while still beating my breast over how I'd been wronged"<br /><br />Baron Georgimir Foulkeskonen Robert Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13408651503272276922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-44725425228229466522013-09-22T19:09:48.502+01:002013-09-22T19:09:48.502+01:00Then there's Jim Murphy's strange tweet fr...Then there's Jim Murphy's strange tweet from the poverty stricken ghetto of Newton Mearns -<br /><br />"East Renfrewshire food bank opened today will help alleviate some of the hidden poverty behind the doors of middle class homes."oldnathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14472618583129398722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-40440887756054026822013-09-22T18:55:01.692+01:002013-09-22T18:55:01.692+01:00Lord Snooty was Scottish. A kindly wee soul who p...Lord Snooty was Scottish. A kindly wee soul who played with the common boys despite his Eton collar and living in the castle....Rolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849975010197698907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-88738925322179396652013-09-22T18:09:00.885+01:002013-09-22T18:09:00.885+01:00I can think of two other places where there is a L...I can think of two other places where there is a Lord Snooty reference. One is in the staunchly unionist D C Thomson papers and the other in the London centric magazine Private Eye, edited by Englishman, Ian Hyslop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-3404858419631182302013-09-22T16:49:54.760+01:002013-09-22T16:49:54.760+01:00They remind me of the 'heart-rending' stor...They remind me of the 'heart-rending' stories you get from time to time in the Daily Mail, the forlorn upper middle class wifie "I've had to forego the Aston, the Chablis and the Christian Dior just to be able to afford the school fees" type.logicsrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01003688864564018437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-27408919342879706472013-09-22T15:51:21.766+01:002013-09-22T15:51:21.766+01:00Brilliant post, couldn't have said it better.Brilliant post, couldn't have said it better.Taranaichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02176999342965850175noreply@blogger.com