tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post1013120023770485691..comments2024-03-28T07:16:39.621+00:00Comments on Lallands Peat Worrier: That latest YouGov Holyrood poll...Lallands Peat Worrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18276270498204697708noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-56908650285778243682011-04-23T09:00:26.262+01:002011-04-23T09:00:26.262+01:00"Sanguine", what a lovely word.
But I a..."Sanguine", what a lovely word.<br /><br />But I agree, the nats don't care where their votes come from.<br /><br />So they harvest anti-council tax votes with the promise of a LIT. But they don't actually have a workable LIT. So they freeze the council tax, but that means council cuts... but that's the councils fault. Anywy, who cares about daycare centres and throghcare centres and disability buses... <br /><br />And they promise to match the school building programme "brick for brick", but they oppose PPP and are also harvesting anti-PPP votes. But that's ok, they will replace PPP with SFT. But they don't actually have a workable SFT. So they don't commisssion any new schools, but they open all the schools built by Labour and claim to have "completed" 330 schools when they have no reponsibility for any of these schools and oppose the PPP that built them.<br /><br />It's a long list, I could go on, but you know all of it already.<br /><br />As you say "sanguine": i.e. any lie to get votes and who cares about the actual schools and hospitals and doctors and teachers...<br /><br />"independence", that's all that matters. People? blah.Bravehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223196805548966030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-31690366649621504932011-04-21T21:25:09.508+01:002011-04-21T21:25:09.508+01:00ratzo,
Obviously I'd be cautious about readin...ratzo,<br /><br />Obviously I'd be cautious about reading too much into the poll, particularly since ABC1 & C2DE are crude categories. However, anyone with a taste for irony should be able to enjoy the implications of this, where bourgeois Labour voters <a href="http://lallandspeatworrier.blogspot.com/2011/03/that-snp-ppb-its-labour-voting.html" rel="nofollow">(whose lineaments I've sketched elsewhere)</a> vote for the People's party, thereby frustrating the people's preferences.<br /><br />Braveheart,<br /><br />I think Nationalists are sanguine about the nature of our electoral support. Achieving the referendum's the thing. The debate which follows is another matter, for the Scottish people to decide.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-20788723647110347572011-04-21T09:22:13.430+01:002011-04-21T09:22:13.430+01:00Anon
Unless the SNP is in a majority, the others ...Anon<br /><br />Unless the SNP is in a majority, the others will ensure conditions, e.g. just one question, e.g. 60% rule, e.g. no more referendums for 30 years...<br /><br />And even if they ever get a mahority of MSPs(doubtful) that would not ensure a majority in a referendum. <br /><br />The SNP will never have referendum on "indeepnedence".Bravehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223196805548966030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-21820441525992005082011-04-20T23:35:57.413+01:002011-04-20T23:35:57.413+01:00if they aren't dumb, how come they want to bre...if they aren't dumb, how come they want to break up a successful country and replace it with...??? Ireland!!!Bravehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223196805548966030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-5025566241923486582011-04-20T22:27:37.359+01:002011-04-20T22:27:37.359+01:00They aren't dumb.
It will be held when they ha...They aren't dumb.<br />It will be held when they have the best chances of winning, not when a recession is still lingering..<br /><br />And no doubt it will be a 3 way question, so there is the consolation prize of 'More powers' if the electorate bottle it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-17487195868391276732011-04-20T21:45:27.162+01:002011-04-20T21:45:27.162+01:00So why doesn't Eck have his referendum then......So why doesn't Eck have his referendum then...?Bravehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223196805548966030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-12831295374772450832011-04-20T16:01:33.076+01:002011-04-20T16:01:33.076+01:00Quite a lot of Labour voters support Independence ...Quite a lot of Labour voters support Independence as many of my Labour supporting family do.Marcianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-5742854572380227412011-04-20T12:44:28.375+01:002011-04-20T12:44:28.375+01:00Colin
probably not.
But the Quebec neverendum loo...Colin<br />probably not.<br /><br />But the Quebec neverendum looms... if they win.<br /><br />Not acceptable to anyone, but that's life: you spend all your time pursuing "independence" and your party leaders settle for ministerial limos.<br /><br />"Referendum next time, or maybe the time after that.. foot down James, off to a cocktail reception..".<br /><br />Waste of a life, I would think....<br /><br />I'm glad I only want what the people want, to build better public services and safer communities. At least when Labour is in power we get the chance to do that, to do some good. <br /><br />The SNP.. no schools, no hospitals, no anything very much. And definitely no "independence".<br /><br />I have to say if I had dedicated my life and time to getting "independence", I wouldn't be happy at it being put back and put back and put back...Bravehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223196805548966030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-34215630195223538872011-04-20T11:51:42.544+01:002011-04-20T11:51:42.544+01:00Yes, the SNP will be inconsolable if they manage t...Yes, the SNP will be inconsolable if they manage to win the election.rullkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468064035662238392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-80714731224052586822011-04-20T11:02:45.220+01:002011-04-20T11:02:45.220+01:00Staistics can be interpreted any way to suit.
All...Staistics can be interpreted any way to suit.<br /><br />All I can say is, in our local canvass, many of those who say they will vote SNP don't support "independence".<br /><br />So even if the nat vote does "hold up", it means very little to those loyal SNP party members and supporters who think the SNP will deliver said "independence".<br /><br />In fact it's probably bad news for the SNP faithful.Bravehearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07223196805548966030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-88118678364677565522011-04-19T21:51:17.358+01:002011-04-19T21:51:17.358+01:00So, you're concluding that the labour vote is ...So, you're concluding that the labour vote is essentially propped up by an inert overlapping set of upper-level public sector bureaucrats and nervous ladies, who most likely identify themselves subjectively as working class, and whose voting habits are identical whether for Holyrood and Westminster?ratzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17512152633620132970noreply@blogger.com