tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post8680006464171570165..comments2024-03-19T07:14:04.745+00:00Comments on Lallands Peat Worrier: 2015: An Ugly StramashLallands Peat Worrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18276270498204697708noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-10654526502204641242014-01-21T00:25:35.937+00:002014-01-21T00:25:35.937+00:00I'm not sure that'd wash, but then, I'...I'm not sure that'd wash, but then, I'm no expert on the internal machinations of the Tory party. But if folk aren't happy with Cameron anyway, any weapon against him may seem a handy weapon. On your first suggestion, I think not. Not least because I'm not sure a Yes vote would precipitate a crisis anything like as substantial in the British state.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-53251218574067452022014-01-19T21:00:26.341+00:002014-01-19T21:00:26.341+00:00And surely Cameron can claim that Darling lost the...And surely Cameron can claim that Darling lost the vote not him. Isn't that part of what this posturing on debates and briefing against Darling is about?Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872454975859620507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-84093876228708938932014-01-19T20:58:40.382+00:002014-01-19T20:58:40.382+00:00In view of the crisis that a Yes vote would cause ...In view of the crisis that a Yes vote would cause in the state isn't the likeliest option a national coalition involving all the parties except the SNP, PC etc. This is possible whether the election is held in 2015 or postponed until secession. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02872454975859620507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-89045675147615539602014-01-07T14:59:39.162+00:002014-01-07T14:59:39.162+00:00You think?
Seems a touch improbable to me...You think?<br /><br />Seems a touch improbable to me...Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-40195703404306778362014-01-06T15:27:56.199+00:002014-01-06T15:27:56.199+00:00I believe in the event of a Yes win, the Westminst...I believe in the event of a Yes win, the Westminster establishment will already have it's counters well drafted and in place. And one measure will be, for at least one parliamentary term, the reduction and use of the political parties as pawns by enforcing a coalition between Conservatives and Labour and the formation of a National Government.Crinkly & Ragged Arsed Philosophershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08902364411241935656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-15348322178596089452014-01-05T14:24:43.601+00:002014-01-05T14:24:43.601+00:00I suppose it is a dim possibility, though an unwel...I suppose it is a dim possibility, though an unwelcome one. I would hope that wiser heads would prevail: Westminster has partly facilitated this referendum. It has legitimacy. Its result should command respect.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-26319900781521554732014-01-05T11:30:41.937+00:002014-01-05T11:30:41.937+00:00Would the Labour party in Scotland not fight that ...Would the Labour party in Scotland not fight that UK GE on the basis that their manifesto would claim that we'd just had a rush of blood to the head when voting 'Yes' in the referendum and that a majority of Labour MP's somehow overturned that?douglas clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11422060678908705962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-25056752556983971612014-01-04T19:26:03.900+00:002014-01-04T19:26:03.900+00:00Rod,
It's certainly a possibility. It is diff...Rod,<br /><br />It's certainly a possibility. It is difficult to foresee just how radically a Yes vote would shake up Scottish politics, and in particular, Scots' attitudes towards voting at Westminster. An SNP delegation holding a balance is just another mischief to bung in the bag! Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-28468155610829923012014-01-04T17:45:25.504+00:002014-01-04T17:45:25.504+00:00There is one other scenario ,suppose at the 2015 B...There is one other scenario ,suppose at the 2015 British GE Scotland returned a landslide SNP contingent that then held the balance at Westminster.<br />That would make negotiations interesting.<br />The Scottish Electorate are very sophisticated and may want to ensure that our interests were best served by sending 50 SNP MPs.Scotty52https://www.blogger.com/profile/15982274953951071466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-67022553873137127552014-01-04T13:30:05.882+00:002014-01-04T13:30:05.882+00:00.... though. A closer read of the actual legislati....... though. A closer read of the actual legislation (doh!) indicates that the PM can defer the date of the election by statutory instrument for not more than two months (though the drafting is a bit unclear: this power may not extent to the <i>next</i> polling date, depending on how you interpret it). Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-25017926523773169082014-01-04T13:27:11.782+00:002014-01-04T13:27:11.782+00:00Though such a measure might also have slight timin...Though such a measure might also have slight timing issues too, requiring s1(2) of the <a href="http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/14/section/1/enacted" rel="nofollow">Fixed-Term Parliaments Act of 2011 to be amended.</a> Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-27288900395227034792014-01-04T09:56:31.062+00:002014-01-04T09:56:31.062+00:00Yes, I would reckon that after a Yes vote, there i...Yes, I would reckon that after a Yes vote, there is a good chance that the Coalition amend their agreement, giving this WM parliament a five year term. But, as you say, mentioning the sensible notion at this time just results in angry bollocks being spouted.commentorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10321173541321374705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-18844980499773574092014-01-03T21:38:36.165+00:002014-01-03T21:38:36.165+00:00So it's 'fie' is it? I've been us...So it's 'fie' is it? I've been using 'fi' as the spelling for that interjection. I will, of course, defer to your expertise in all the things that are very lexical, though not in anything or matters truly astronomical. Sheesh, there's gotta be a line in <i>I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major-General</i> to embrace that rhyme.<br /><br /><b>You know the Holyrood-ites, and you quote their fights historical,<br />From Three Estates to Pairlament, in order categorical;<br />You're very well acquainted too with matters oh so lexical,<br />You understand judicials, but you suck at astronomical,</b> <br /><br />I made the terrible mistake of researching 'bairn' in the 'Scots Wiktionary'.<br /><br />http://sco.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bairn <br /><br />Gibberish. Nowt but gibberish.<br /><br />Well, you still could be an autumnal bairn, metaphorically speaking. Did your parents welcome your nascence or did it presage for them the burdensome winter of their subsequent unending discontent? You did speak earlier of your pre-pubescent embrace of cynicism with its genesis a result of a horrid wean. Just sayin' is all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-33264629425499644352014-01-03T21:17:57.798+00:002014-01-03T21:17:57.798+00:00Northern Europeans (such as Scots as Danes) tend t...Northern Europeans (such as Scots as Danes) tend to regard September as an autumn month (sometimes called the meteorological autumn), whereas people from further south often prefer the so-called astronomical seasons, where autumn starts at Equinox. See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter#Astronomical_and_other_calendar-based_reckoningThomas Widmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00556092637506486689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-49407224720532791372014-01-03T20:28:36.857+00:002014-01-03T20:28:36.857+00:00Thomas,
It is certainly a possibility: one might ...Thomas,<br /><br />It is certainly a possibility: one might might begin to look more attractive after a Yes vote than at present, when most in the Westminster body politic seem convinced it won't happen. On the other hand, the momentum is clearly in the other direction, militating in favour of an early election. But if the balance of convenience changes...Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-19295007083473383242014-01-03T20:26:22.534+00:002014-01-03T20:26:22.534+00:00Edwin,
It could get awfie weird, awful quickly. I...Edwin,<br /><br />It could get awfie weird, awful quickly. If the Scottish Labour weren't so transparently without imagination, competence, or a plan, I might be more worried - but without being hubristic, I think there is a very decent shot that the SNP keep their mitts on power in Holyrood, win or lose the referendum. Unless something significant changes between now and then.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-72740940953244202802014-01-03T20:21:09.028+00:002014-01-03T20:21:09.028+00:00Fie! This wasn't prolixity, it was scene-setti...Fie! This wasn't prolixity, it was scene-setting! ;-)<br /><br />On your analysis of the calendar, I can only relent. And here was me (a September bairn), thinking I was born amidst the autumn. That's me told.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-68724949098088144112014-01-03T20:18:20.372+00:002014-01-03T20:18:20.372+00:00Excellent blog post!
Of course it'd also be p...Excellent blog post!<br /><br />Of course it'd also be possible to postpone the rUK general election by a year, i.e., until after Scottish independence has happened. This is what Angus Robertson suggested (and I discussed in a brief blog post here: http://www.arcofprosperity.org/the-postponement-of-the-2015-general-election/).<br /><br />The main problem with discussing such options is that any Scottish nationalist mentioning it can be accused of undue interference, but what do you do when people in the Westminster bubble just aren't interesting in looking at the issues involved?Thomas Widmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00556092637506486689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-38462569245908680462014-01-03T19:07:43.569+00:002014-01-03T19:07:43.569+00:00Fascinating reality-based conjecture as ever LPW. ...Fascinating reality-based conjecture as ever LPW. Am sure you are right about the unpreparedness of many at Westminster for a Yes vote. I wonder also - in that event - what our political landscape will look like if we get a unionist-dominated Holyrood in 2016.<br /><br />I'm not even sure what that would mean - something like a Ukrainian situation with many hankering for a return to union perhaps? <br /><br />We all take it for granted that if there is a Yes result it would be a small majority, but I'm not even sure of that, given the strange mixture of volatility and apathy displayed by the electorate.<br /><br />I fear I am becoming ever more pessimistic about the future of our polity no matter what September brings! Edwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-72071826651382693742014-01-03T18:27:43.989+00:002014-01-03T18:27:43.989+00:00A great first paragraph, LPW. As that testimonial...A great first paragraph, LPW. As that testimonial on the right side-bar attests: "..... “... the erudite and loquacious Peat Worrier who never knowingly avoids a prolix circumlocution.” ~ Love and Garbage.....", I am thankful. We'll leave Conan the Librarian's extolling of your virtues for a later comment. And of course a new Scots word - 'stramash'!<br />I've only a tiny quibble; The Autumnal Equinox arrives September 23, 2014 at approximately 02:29 GMT. Accordingly, the black umbrellas of the trembling flunkies surrounding The Rt. Hon. David Cameron, MP on the morning of the 19th of September, 2014 will not be buffeted by autumn weather, but by late-summer weather instead.<br />Then again, with the sun having set on the Empire, perhaps y'all re-negotiated the timings of the solstices and equinoxes in the physical UK for your own purposes and they now differ from the times accepted by rest of your former colonies?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com