tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post3224395641013593699..comments2024-03-19T07:14:04.745+00:00Comments on Lallands Peat Worrier: Bogus names on gay marriage petition?Lallands Peat Worrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18276270498204697708noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-81660865767948122532011-12-19T15:18:12.969+00:002011-12-19T15:18:12.969+00:00Agree with that last point, TheeForsakenOne. It i...Agree with that last point, TheeForsakenOne. It is difficult enough to talk about these issues meaningfully <i> (and despite my desire to foster an approach more rooted in discussion than recrimination, I find it as difficult as the next soul, committed to a particular position on this).</i> Little is added to that by daffy, shallow little off-topic dust ups.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-14099880015763741182011-12-19T14:19:27.622+00:002011-12-19T14:19:27.622+00:00I am trying not to think about that unpleasant rev...I am trying not to think about that unpleasant revelation... I can only assume that the person's involved were very drunk or truly desperate.<br /><br />On a more serious note, I hope that the arguments for and against do not turn into accusations of dirty tricks and hatred. I am sure there are members on both sides of the divide who would do such things, but I like to think they are a minority.TheeForsakenOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15153140737814757097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-70904991235875581932011-12-19T12:07:29.565+00:002011-12-19T12:07:29.565+00:00TheeForsakenOne,
I just cross-post the articles f...<b>TheeForsakenOne</b>,<br /><br />I just cross-post the articles from the <i>Kinlochbervie Chronicle</i>. However, from what Mr Mackay has written, it seems as if he is treating these allegations with the utmost seriousness. Indeed, it seems as if Wee Jimmy Krankie has been trying to take control of the news agenda to distance himself from these revelations, by saturating the airwaves with <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8965006/The-Krankies-We-used-to-be-swingers.html" rel="nofollow">still-more appalling hidden details of his busy personal life...</a><br /><br /><b>William Smith, Indy, Anonymous persons...</b><br /><br />I'm sure Ecclefechan wasn't suggesting Labour or the Whigs were just engaged in partisan heckling. Some sort of verification process to preserve some sort of integrity for their petition would have been wise. That said, Scotland for Marriage hardly seems bursting with tech-savvy youthfulness...<br /><br /><b>Joe,</b><br /><br />Dreadful cynic, you.Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-62143588384678092922011-12-18T19:37:32.569+00:002011-12-18T19:37:32.569+00:00Would the person in question be Tom French himself...Would the person in question be Tom French himself?Joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-55989236666019369982011-12-17T07:53:25.379+00:002011-12-17T07:53:25.379+00:00Clearly someone has put these names on for a joke ...Clearly someone has put these names on for a joke but as William Smith said the people who set up the petition should have included an email verification which is standard practice. They should also have required a full postal address. <br /><br />That's not going to stop people putting on names fraudulently but it would make it a lot harder - in this case it would have meant setting up 27 false email addresses and coming up with 27 false addresses. Would have made it less of a jest, which I would guess is all it was, and more obviously a deliberate attempt at fraud.Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04383904151475839441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-26728877428054787562011-12-17T00:53:50.987+00:002011-12-17T00:53:50.987+00:00To spare their blushes (and quite possibly their j...To spare their blushes (and quite possibly their job) I shall omit the name of the student activist who posted on twitter the other day about their pride in spamming the petition with false names, perhaps resulting in the story you refer to...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-19843882872223979522011-12-17T00:10:26.613+00:002011-12-17T00:10:26.613+00:00Does all this IP address verification stuff fall a...Does all this IP address verification stuff fall apart when you have a cheap & cheerful dynamic address?<br /><br />Anyway.....what about this below.......82% of respondants from a single IP address from behind a Council firewall?<br /><br />Incredibly, neither the Cooncil nor the Polis can figure out who perp is.<br /><br />http://forargyll.com/2011/12/bizarre-challenge-from-angus-council-to-education-secretary-on-false-evidence/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-21702899052766439892011-12-16T22:32:05.353+00:002011-12-16T22:32:05.353+00:00Every petition has its D Duck and its M Mouse. It ...Every petition has its D Duck and its M Mouse. It would be disappointing for poor old Gordon if he couldn't have managed that.<br /><br />As William Smith said, multiple posts using every email known to the poster, and some made up, can easily be avoided if the originator of the petition has a bit of computer knowledge and blocks them. <br /><br />That does, however, prevent, for example, husband and wife (heterosexual ones, of course) signing on the same computer, or even from the same IP address.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-80906038265594742722011-12-16T20:24:59.784+00:002011-12-16T20:24:59.784+00:00Excellent stuff: i am reminded of the great Sir Ha...Excellent stuff: i am reminded of the great Sir Harry Flashman -<br /><br /><br />'…all the inflamed mob did was to send a monstrous petition across to the House of Commons. It had five million signatures, they said; I know it had four of mine, one in the name of Obadiah Snooks, and three others in the shape of Xs besides which I wrote, ‘John Morrison, Arthur Wellesley, Henry John Temple Palmerston, their marks’.'Edwin Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05317173893948248954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-27270361862038831802011-12-16T17:50:30.115+00:002011-12-16T17:50:30.115+00:00The issue with the petition isn't just that on...The issue with the petition isn't just that one person with a relatively common name was added without their knowledge.<br /><br />The real issue is that a large bloc, of at least 27 individuals, had their email addresses and names added from one IP address without their knowledge.<br /><br />If the S4M lot had any sense, they'd have introduced email verification or at least some form of restriction on the amount of times it can be signed from one computer.<br /><br />Their lack of oversight into the quality and validity of their petition calls it onto question. And on Labour's support - this is an issue the SNP support, not just standard partisan hectoring.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-42826813822968476302011-12-16T14:45:11.723+00:002011-12-16T14:45:11.723+00:00So I get the impression from your somewhat tongue-...So I get the impression from your somewhat tongue-in-cheek post that you think this is a load of nonsense?<br /><br />I'm personally ambivalent to the issue but it does seem like mud slinging for spurious reasons.TheeForsakenOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15153140737814757097noreply@blogger.com