tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post2579029099122918589..comments2024-03-28T07:16:39.621+00:00Comments on Lallands Peat Worrier: On Gay Caledonia...Lallands Peat Worrierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18276270498204697708noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-45477286183714354262012-09-02T23:02:28.665+01:002012-09-02T23:02:28.665+01:00I'd have thought that no one would ever know t...I'd have thought that no one would ever know the true number, or percentage, of people who might be called gay or bi-sexual.<br /><br />As sexual attraction can be described as a sliding scale from 100% in one direction to 100% in the other with every number on the scale, depending on the individual.<br /><br />Inclination may also change during people's lifetimes, depending on their circumstances. I've certainly talked to lads who had been in prison who had indulged in gay sex whilst inside, but who had never before, or since wanted to take any part in it. I also once talked to an older man who since his wife had died, had found that he was happier to seek sexual gratification with another man, rather than be "unfaithful" to his wife. <br /><br />I'm not sure that even in a wide circle of friends not knowing anyone who is gay, is a sure way of knowing that none is gay.<br /><br />Many gay people will talk to no one; many only to a professional; some to only very close friends, in complete confidence, and some will come out to all their friends.<br /><br />Even some young people (quite a number in my experience) are terrified to have anyone know their orientation, fearing reprisals from school or work bullies.<br /><br />It's rather a sad situation that people to have to live their lives in such fear. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-46691113113759795272012-09-01T15:20:04.778+01:002012-09-01T15:20:04.778+01:00LPW, your last para is a perfect rebuttal to Bonni...LPW, your last para is a perfect rebuttal to Bonnington's recent nonsense about devolution ruining Scots law. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-77377518311131696352012-09-01T12:33:50.730+01:002012-09-01T12:33:50.730+01:00The 10% claim was always just propaganda, as any f...The 10% claim was always just propaganda, as any fule kno.<br /><br />The generally accepted figure is about 3%.<br /><br />Which just about supplies enough of a reservoir of talent to provide all the TV presenters required by the BBC.Groundskeeper Willienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-10441795728203081142012-08-31T20:14:06.815+01:002012-08-31T20:14:06.815+01:00Have you read the methodology bit on the SG websit...Have you read the methodology bit on the SG website? They don't actually claim it is representative. It's based on geographic data as far as I can see.<br /><br />Also, years of canvassing have taught me that there is a group of people who are persistently never in. Whatever time you chap their door they are still out. Whereas people you have an existing canvass result for are usually in when you chap their door again. There may be something of the same effect here.<br /><br />Do gay people spend more time gadding about getting up to high jinks and are therefore less likely to be found sitting in their houses answering questions from earnest Scottish Government researchers? I wouldn't be at all surprised!Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04383904151475839441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-35114701562815043502012-08-31T20:00:14.063+01:002012-08-31T20:00:14.063+01:00I would agree with the figures. I have a wide circ...I would agree with the figures. I have a wide circle of friends, and know hardly any gay folk. One of my school friends was gay, and that's about it.<br /> Maybe they have all moved to Edinburgh or London, and the 10% might be more realistic there? My gay sister moved to Edinburgh as she felt the social life was better there.<br />Seriously, i've always doubted the 10% figure, even in London or Edinburgh..Jutemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11061671774494923407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-31721188012956452432012-08-31T18:31:36.781+01:002012-08-31T18:31:36.781+01:00One in ten is perhaps a bit high, I'll agree. ...One in ten is perhaps a bit high, I'll agree. In my haste to discredit a low figure, I swung the other way (pun not intended.) I also think that 2% is a bit low - it's more likely somewhere in between. Especially give this was a face to face survey, people may have been reluctant to discuss their sexuality with a complete stranger. <br /><br />Even annonymous polling isn't great in this regard - though the situation is much improved now, it can still take a long time for people to admit to themselves that they are gay. Certainly, a couple of years ago I would have responded "straight" because I hadn't yet admitted it to myself. People did, and still do, go their entire lives without coming to terms with it and living a lie.<br /><br />And that's not even getting into the simple fact that sexuality doesn't go 100% attracted to women, 50/50, 100% attracted to men.<br /><br />I'm getting a headache, now.AFauldsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-58033669793991162712012-08-31T17:51:39.487+01:002012-08-31T17:51:39.487+01:00"then that's only 52,548 LGBT people in S...<i>"then that's only 52,548 LGBT people in Scotland, a number that seems preposterously small, where the 472,932 would seem more reasonable"</i><br /><br />Would it? Every remotely credible survey has suggested that the supposed 10% ratio is a complete myth.<br /><br />As someone living in a small city whose last regular hostelry (who can afford to go to pubs any more?) was a gay bar, I like to think I'm moderately well-connected with regard to the LGBT community, and in several years of drinking there two or three nights a week with a mostly-gay group of friends, I never once met anyone who believed that the true figure was anywhere close to that. Even allowing for people misreporting their orientation for any of a variety of reasons, something in the order of 2% seems far more realistic.RevStuhttp://wingsland.podgamer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-6792627099938040012012-08-31T17:08:10.940+01:002012-08-31T17:08:10.940+01:00Confounded decimal points...Confounded decimal points...Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-54401754244587754492012-08-31T17:07:11.208+01:002012-08-31T17:07:11.208+01:00Eep. *hasily corrects*Eep. *hasily corrects*Lallands Peat Worrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238432265194046726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1638916042737526171.post-60942663309531403382012-08-31T17:05:09.804+01:002012-08-31T17:05:09.804+01:00Surely a miscalculation there, Peaty... If only 1%...Surely a miscalculation there, Peaty... If only 1%, as this survey suggests, are gay, lesbian, bi or "other" - assuming other fits neatly into the transgender portion of LGBT - then that's only 52,548 LGBT people in Scotland, a number that seems preposterously small, where the 472,932 would seem more reasonable.AFauldsnoreply@blogger.com